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foretaz
07-06-2005, 11:27 PM
i realize its the offseason, and the lack of news probably has alot to do with this....

but every day that goes by and granger hasnt signed a contract makes me wonder that much more if there isnt something going on....

the rookie contracts are pretty much a formality....especially for a guy that dropped as far as he did....and these guys are anxious to get signed and get their cash and move on....summer league is right around the corner....

and yet no signing yet....

im sure that he will be signed any day now....but every day that passes i just cant help but think there is a reason he hasnt signed yet...and wonder if it has to do with some sort of trade....god the offseason can be boring ;)

SoupIsGood
07-06-2005, 11:32 PM
Do most first rounders have contracts yet?

foretaz
07-06-2005, 11:37 PM
yes....the majority of first round guys have signed....not all...but most

Isaac
07-06-2005, 11:41 PM
That means absolutely nothing.

I agree.

Young
07-06-2005, 11:42 PM
That means absolutely nothing.

No it doesn't but donesn't it make you wonder?

It is not like they have to negoiate a deal or anything, I think each player's contract is all set and they basically just have to sign. Also, of course once they sign I think a team must wait 3 mounths or so to trade him.

SoupIsGood
07-06-2005, 11:45 PM
No it doesn't but donesn't it make you wonder?

It is not like they have to negoiate a deal or anything, I think each player's contract is all set and they basically just have to sign. Also, of course once they sign I think a team must wait 3 mounths or so to trade him.

There is a margin of about +/- 20% for them to negotiate. I think this is probably the slow-down, as his agents are probably requesting the higher end of the set contract range, considering he was supposed to have been a top 5-10 pick.

foretaz
07-06-2005, 11:58 PM
There is a margin of about +/- 20% for them to negotiate. I think this is probably the slow-down, as his agents are probably requesting the higher end of the set contract range, considering he was supposed to have been a top 5-10 pick.

ur correct....and danny receiving 120% of scale is basically a no brainer....and i dont for a minute believe thats the holdup....like i said...its probably nothing....but if they were to trade him...theyd have to do so before he signs....or as someone else pointed out, wait a while....with his contract being much more of a formality than most other first rounders, i find it a bit strange he hasnt signed yet....

fooddaman
07-07-2005, 12:50 AM
From what I could gather up on ESPN.com, the following first round selections have signed a contract.

1. Andrew Bogut - Milwaukee
4. Chris Paul - New Orleans
6. Martell Webster - Portland
8. Channing Frye - New York
18. Gerald Green - Boston
20. Julius Hodge - Denver
21. Nate Robinson - New York
24. Luther Head - Houston
27. Linas Kleiza - Denver
30. David Lee - New York

10/30 picks = 33% signed. Still early, I don't think there is anything going on IMO.

foretaz
07-07-2005, 01:34 AM
From what I could gather up on ESPN.com, the following first round selections have signed a contract.

1. Andrew Bogut - Milwaukee
4. Chris Paul - New Orleans
6. Martell Webster - Portland
8. Channing Frye - New York
18. Gerald Green - Boston
20. Julius Hodge - Denver
21. Nate Robinson - New York
24. Luther Head - Houston
27. Linas Kleiza - Denver
30. David Lee - New York

10/30 picks = 33% signed. Still early, I don't think there is anything going on IMO.


bynum and garcia are 2 that have signed right off the top of my head that arent on ur list...and thats without checking....

Jose Slaughter
07-07-2005, 02:28 AM
I think the delay may be due to the fact that he has to pass a physical first.

With our medical staff that could be awhile.

Peck
07-07-2005, 02:36 AM
I think the delay may be due to the fact that he has to pass a physical first.

With our medical staff that could be awhile.


And even then, would you trust their exam?

foretaz
07-07-2005, 02:40 AM
And even then, would you trust their exam?


knowing larry, hes probably got dyrek or whatever his name is doing the physical ;)

indygeezer
07-07-2005, 06:22 AM
Or it could simply be that they don't wanna mention an agreement until it is signed. For whatever reason they may feel it is not really important to announce or perhaps they feel it may have some influence on other negotiations, ie the size of contract that can be offered others.

In this case I don't think we HAVE to see an Oliver Stone movie.

fooddaman
07-07-2005, 06:41 AM
bynum and garcia are 2 that have signed right off the top of my head that arent on ur list...and thats without checking....

That might be, but now I have checked with the official NBA.COM and they list only the ones I mentioned before. Maybe there is an agreement, but until it's signed...

From NBA.COM's transactions page

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</td> </tr> </table> <div style=font-size:11;font-family:verdana>Cleveland acquires Eric Snow from Philadelphia
for Kedrick Brown and Kevin Ollie

Los Angeles Lakers sign Vlade Divac

Portland acquires Nick Van Exel from Golden State for Dale Davis and Dan Dickau

Sacramento agrees to a contract
with Greg Ostertag

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Utah re-signs Gordan Giricek

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Detroit signs Antonio McDyess

Golden State signs Derek Fisher

Indiana re-signs Anthony Johnson

New Orleans signs Morris Peterson
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</td> </tr>--> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">July 6
</td> <td valign="top">New Orleans signs first-round pick Chris Paul.


</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">July 5
</td> <td valign="top">Atlanta waives Obinna Ekezie and James Thomas. Denver signs first-round picks Julius Hodge and Linas Kleiza.

Orlando names Randy Wittman, Mark Bryant and Morlon Wiley assistant coaches.




</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">July 3
</td> <td valign="top">Boston signs first-round pick Gerald Green to a two-year contract.


</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">July 2
</td> <td valign="top">New York signs first-round picks Channing Frye and Nate Robinson to two-year contracts. Portland signs first-round pick Martell Webster to a two-year contract.




</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">July 1
</td> <td valign="top">Atlanta declines the 2006 contract option on Peja Drobnjak. Houston signs first-round pick Luther Head to a two-year contract.

Milwaukee signs first-round pick Andrew Bogut to a two-year contract.

Minnesota re-signs general manager Jim Stack.

New York signs first-round pick David Lee to a two-year contract.

Memphis names Scott Adubato assistant coach and Jason Hamm video coordinator.




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</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">June 30
</td> <td valign="top">Boston exercises the contract option on Justin Reed for the 2005-06 season. Golden State exercises the contract option on Mickael Pietrus and Zarko Cabarkapa for the 2006-07 season; waives Rodney White.

Sacramento's Cuttino Mobley declines option to return to team.

Miami's Damon Jones declines option to return to team.

New Jersey names Kimberlee Garris entertainment and event coordinator.

New York exercises the option on Michael Sweetney for the 2006-07 season.




</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">June 29
</td> <td valign="top">L.A. Clippers waive Mamadou N'Diaye. Miami exercises the contract option on Qyntel Woods for the 2005-06 season.

New Jersey exercises the contract option on Jacque Vaughn for the 2005-06 season.

Phoenix names Dan D'Antoni assistant coach.




</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">June 28
</td> <td valign="top">Cleveland acquires the draft rights to Martynas Andriuskevicius from Orlando for a 2006 second-round pick and future considerations. Memphis acquires the draft rights to Lawrence Roberts from Seattle for two future second-round picks and future considerations.

New York acquires Quentin Richardson, the draft rights to Nate Robinson and future considerations from Phoenix for Kurt Thomas and the draft rights to Dijon Thompson.

Orlando acquires the draft rights to Marcin Gortat from Phoenix for future considerations.

Portland acquired the drafts rights to Jarrett Jack from Denver for the draft rights to Linas Kleiza and Ricky Sanchez.

Utah acquires the third selection in NBA Draft 2005 from Portland in exchange for the sixth and 27th picks and a conditional 2006 first-round pick.




</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">June 27
</td> <td valign="top">Cleveland names Danny Ferry general manager. L.A. Clippers tender Marko Jaric a qualifying offer for the 2005-06 season.

New Jersey declines the contract option on Clifford Robinson.

Orlando names Dave Twardzik and Otis Smith assistant general managers and Alex Martins executive vice president of marketing and franchise relations.

Toronto exercises the contract option on Chris Bosh for the 2006-07 season.




</td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td valign="top">June 25
</td> <td valign="top">Charlotte exercises the contract option on Emeka Okafor for the 2007-08 season.
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Here - Looks like Garcia has agreed, but not signed and Bryum has signed...So that makes it 12/30 picks, so now that's 40%. I still do not believe there is a conspiracy here:D http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story.asp?ID=129775

<table align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="447" width="627"> <tbody><tr valign="top"><td>Kings sign Francisco Garcia

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20050324/louisville_garcia_78585.jpg Associated Press



7/6/2005 7:14:46 PM

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Francisco Garcia agreed to a contract Wednesday with the Sacramento Kings, who chose him with the 23rd overall pick in last month's draft.

Garcia, a six-foot-seven guard, averaged 15.7 points per game last season while leading Louisville to the Final Four. He scored in double figures in 73 games during his three seasons with the Cardinals, leading the school in scoring during each of his final two seasons.

Garcia, a native of the Dominican Republic who attended high school in New York, will play for the Kings' summer league team in Las Vegas this weekend.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/wire/sns-ap-bkn-lakers-bynum,1,1561841.story?coll=sns-ap-basketball-headlines


Lakers Sign First-Round Pick Bynum
By Associated Press EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- The Los Angeles Lakers signed first-round draft pick Andrew Bynum on Wednesday.

Terms of the deal weren't announced.

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able
07-07-2005, 07:32 AM
chill, it always takes some time here:

Pacers sign David Harrison
7th July, 2004 - 6:19 pm
Yahoo Sports - David Harrison the big man out of Colorado signed a multi-year rookie deal with the Indiana Pacers today. Harrison was selected with the last pick in this years draft; making him the last players selected who recieves a guaranteed contract.

"Under the NBA's rookie salary scale as the 29th overall pick, Harrison will receive a three-year deal worth at least $2.25 million with a club option for the 2007-08 season.

Will Galen
07-07-2005, 08:46 AM
The Pacers really don't have to have him signed until the Minnesota Summer League begins July 15th. Of the teams in that league, Indiana, Houston, Toronto, New York, Minnesota, and Milwaukee, only Milwaukee and New York have signed players already and those teams have good reasons.

Milwaukee's Bogut was the #1 pick and #1's usually sign early. New York is also playing in the Vegas league, so they had to sign their players fast.

sixthman
07-07-2005, 08:52 AM
Given the wierd off season this is going to be, if I were Bird and Walsh I'd wait as long as I could to sign Granger. Why close options?

Danny G. deserves the max possible for a 17th pick and I'd imagine he will get it.

PacersFan
07-07-2005, 02:26 PM
I got this off the Indystar board

http://www2.indystar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111464

bigdep
Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 26

Granger GETTIN Paid!

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Wthr indy is reporting that Pacers first round pick will be signing a multi-year deal possible today. The contract, obviously wont be available to the public but will fall into the new C.B. agreement.

foretaz
07-07-2005, 02:36 PM
saw that....and now...it appears its done....file that one away as one less thing to talk about....;)

now...how long is it before we are allowed to trade him? ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D

Los Angeles
07-07-2005, 03:01 PM
I think the delay may be due to the fact that he has to pass a physical first.

With our medical staff that could be awhile.
:lol2:

diamonddave00
07-07-2005, 04:39 PM
Now that Danny Granger is signed he can not be traded till December.

Anthem
07-07-2005, 06:14 PM
Now that Danny Granger is signed he can not be traded till December.

Yeah, I'd been wondering about that as well.

fooddaman
07-07-2005, 08:20 PM
I really hope that we don't trade him, everything points to him being a very special player.

BustedPants
07-07-2005, 10:16 PM
And even then, would you trust their exam?

What is there not to trust? I don't get it.

chinapacers
07-07-2005, 11:38 PM
Pacers sign Granger today to a multi-year contract. Don't worry about this anymore guys.

PCC87
07-08-2005, 12:02 AM
saw that....and now...it appears its done....file that one away as one less thing to talk about....;)

now...how long is it before we are allowed to trade him? ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D


Why would you want to trade him???

rabid
07-08-2005, 12:52 AM
FYI: Granger was in the front row at the Fever game tonight, and they inttroduced him on the PA and showed him on the big screen...