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BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 08:43 PM
:spurs: vs :thepiston

Here we are again, on the outside looking in on a series that we hoped our Pacers would be in... :(

Lord Helmet
06-09-2005, 08:47 PM
:spurs: vs :thepiston

Here we are again, on the outside looking in on a series that we hoped our Pacers would be in... :(
Thats what I'm saying. Too bad we always get screwed/****** . :mad: I bet there will be a lockout next year, too. :mad: I heard on ESPN a while ago, that Russ Krank *I spell that name right?* has told NBA officials to prepare for a player lockout. :mad: :unimpress

Oh well, at least we have the jailhouse blues.....I mean Colts. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Hicks
06-09-2005, 08:52 PM
I wonder how far history will repeat itself. Will there be a lockout, and when it's over mid-season, will be be considered the favorites like we were in 1999? Will we blow it again?

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 08:54 PM
Is there a way to listen/watch online? None of the SA feeds work, and I really don't want to try the detroit ones....

Lord Helmet
06-09-2005, 08:56 PM
I wonder how far history will repeat itself. Will there be a lockout, and when it's over mid-season, will be be considered the favorites like we were in 1999? Will we blow it again?
Most likely. But, again, what is the stupid reason the players would hold out, again this time?

sweabs
06-09-2005, 09:03 PM
I've been saying Pistons in 4 or 5.

Not sure why, but it's just this hunch I get. They just match-up real nicely with the Spurs. They've got a great chance to repeat here, and once again; prove the world wrong. That's a role they thrive on, and I think this series could be quick.

sweabs
06-09-2005, 09:05 PM
Alanis Morisette singing the anthem...ugh.

Well, at least she's Canadian!

Buhler? :whoknows:

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:06 PM
I was wondering the same thing... :confused:

Kegboy
06-09-2005, 09:06 PM
I wonder how far history will repeat itself. Will there be a lockout, and when it's over mid-season, will be be considered the favorites like we were in 1999? Will we blow it again?

I'm really concerned how a lockout would affect our team. Neither coaches nor team officials can have any contact with players, so our young guys aren't gonna be worked with, our injured players can't be worked on by our trainers, and Ron's gonna be off on an island somewhere unsupervised. :uhoh:

But then, our "veterans" supposedly handled the lockout so well last time, we came into the season as complete favorites to run the table. That sure went well. :(

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:07 PM
Now it's Robert Horry... I mean, Will Smith singing next ;) :laugh:

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:08 PM
I'm really concerned how a lockout would affect our team. Neither coaches nor team officials can have any contact with players, so our young guys aren't gonna be worked with, our injured players can't be worked on by our trainers, and Ron's gonna be off on an island somewhere unsupervised. :uhoh:

But then, our "veterans" supposedly handled the lockout so well last time, we came into the season as complete favorites to run the table. That sure went well. :(

Doesn't Ron work at Conseco?

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:08 PM
Aww...Hell no!!!!

It's Will Smith!!!!!! Now the finals are ready :unimpress:

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:08 PM
Now it's Robert Horry... I mean, Will Smith singing next ;) :laugh:

Funny how they look alike, eh? Difference is I hate Horry and I love Smith. Too bad Smith is Lakers fan, though

DrBadd01
06-09-2005, 09:09 PM
GO SPURS!!!!!

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:11 PM
The Spurs' PA announcer has a very annoying voice, whiny and nasal... :yuck:

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:11 PM
DARKO!!!!!!!

Now it's on Spurs

Kegboy
06-09-2005, 09:13 PM
Wow, they're doing their darnedest to make me glad we're not in the Finals. Please tell me this stupid thing is only going to be done the first game!

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:14 PM
Devin Brown's back???

He could actually be somewhat of a factor in this series, he played well before getting hurt.

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:14 PM
Is there a way to listen/watch online? None of the SA feeds work, and I really don't want to try the detroit ones....

Nothing? :cry: I guess I can't watch, and have to resort to gamechannelling....

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:15 PM
One forgets how deep the Spurs bench is, GRobb, Nesterovic, and Barry all could easily be starters on most teams (and Barry started many Spurs games this season)

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:15 PM
Wow, they're doing their darnedest to make me glad we're not in the Finals. Please tell me this stupid thing is only going to be done the first game!

They won't have the musical guests every game or the festivities. I think they do it for the casual fan that might want to follow the series, or either team.

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:16 PM
Ah, now we see why Alanis sang the national anthem, she's going to be on 20/20 on ABC - damn cross promotions! :unimpress

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:16 PM
Nothing? :cry: I guess I can't watch, and have to resort to gamechannelling....

I would figure it's on ESPN radio, just a thought.

shags
06-09-2005, 09:17 PM
This is really going to suck next year on DST, when the game hasn't tipped off until 9:20.

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:18 PM
Thank goodness that commercial is local, because that was the gayest Batman I ever saw.

Kegboy
06-09-2005, 09:21 PM
Mike Callahan is ref'ing a Finals game?! What has the world come to? :shakehead

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:22 PM
I would figure it's on ESPN radio, just a thought.

I got the Seattle feed :laugh:

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:22 PM
Don't think Detroit was expecting the Spurs to go to Mohammed on the 1st play, lol.

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:23 PM
I got the Seattle feed :laugh:

Nice!!!

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:23 PM
Interesting, Spurs playing Duncan very high on the first two possessions, with Nazr posting up...

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Pop is like Rick or vice versa.

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:24 PM
That was a quick timeout by Popovich...

:thepiston 6
:spurs: 2

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:24 PM
Nice!!!

At least it is nonpartial :shrug:

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:25 PM
I have to be a fan of Hamilton because that means Reggie's name won't be lost for a long time.

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:26 PM
flop :unimpress

Ben Wallace acted like he was punched.

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:26 PM
Geez, Duncan's missed a dunk, forced a poor shot, and committed a silly foul - very un-Duncan like :hmm:

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:30 PM
flop :unimpress

Ben Wallace acted like he was punched.


Anything new there :rolleyes:

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:30 PM
Detroit's missing a good oppurtunity right now to push the lead.

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:31 PM
Detroit really handing it to SA here

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:33 PM
This lead should still be higher than 9.

Hoop
06-09-2005, 09:34 PM
I hate to, but I'm picking Detoilet in 6.

Shade
06-09-2005, 09:37 PM
The Pistons are REALLY good. How the hell did we push them to 6 games? :dunno:

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:37 PM
Parker's gonna have a hard time getting that floater of his to work against the shot-blockers of the Pistons

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:37 PM
Holy **** this isnt even close right now

Shade
06-09-2005, 09:37 PM
Pistons 17, Spurs 4 :surprised

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:38 PM
The Pistons are REALLY good. How the hell did we push them to 6 games? :dunno:

Because we are pretty good too :flirt:


SA getting killed

Shade
06-09-2005, 09:39 PM
The Spurs look completely shell-shocked, including Duncan.

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:39 PM
Pacers > Spurs...........course I knew it all along.

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:40 PM
How many offensive rebounds did the Pistons get on that possession, something like 5?

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:41 PM
:thepiston 19
:spurs: 11

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:41 PM
THERE we go

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:49 PM
Nice half-court trap by the Spurs!

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 09:49 PM
BIG DOG!!!!!

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:49 PM
5 pt lead...

Could be cut to 3 now.... :o

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:50 PM
Down to 3!

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 09:51 PM
O foul on Prince! 6 left for a shot

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 09:52 PM
End of the 1st Quarter:
:thepiston 20
:spurs: 17

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 10:08 PM
What a ball fake by Billups on Horry for the layup!

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 10:20 PM
Tie game

Hicks
06-09-2005, 10:21 PM
The Spurs are just... subtly so very good at what they do. When the Pistons play well, you see it slap you in the face. But there's a real subtlety to the Spurs effectiveness to me. It's like I don't realize they're playing great D until suddenly the other team is forcing up a bad shot.

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 10:22 PM
FG Shooting:
:thepiston 14-36 (.389)
:spurs: 13-33 (.394)

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Halftime Score:
:thepiston 37
:spurs: 35

SoupIsGood
06-09-2005, 10:31 PM
Pistons will win.

Did Tayshaun even play that quarter?

shags
06-09-2005, 10:33 PM
Pistons will win.

Did Tayshaun even play that quarter?

Nope. Brown doesn't play starters if they pick up 2 fouls in the first quarter. That strategy cost them Game 2 in Miami, so the Pistons are lucky to be in this good a shape.

SoupIsGood
06-09-2005, 10:35 PM
Nope. Brown doesn't play starters if they pick up 2 fouls in the first quarter. That strategy cost them Game 2 in Miami, so the Pistons are lucky to be in this good a shape.

Prince was playing pretty well too. I think the Spurs are in trouble if he can stay out of foul trouble the rest of the game.

NorCal_Pacerfan
06-09-2005, 10:38 PM
Spurs will win. They had a slow start - had to shake the rust off a bit. They'll be flyin' in the second half.

Sollozzo
06-09-2005, 10:41 PM
Great game.

Will Smith and Alanis Morrisette? What year is this again? 1998?

I would rather hear RON ARTEST rap than Will Smith. Would we have heard that crappy "Miami" song if the Heat were in the finals?

SoupIsGood
06-09-2005, 10:44 PM
Was it just me, or was the San Antonio crowd so not into Smith that he never got anything more than a murmur from the audience when they were supposed to go "uhhhhh" with the song?

They were supposed to do that, right?

Kstat
06-09-2005, 10:45 PM
consider it payback for having to listen to country music during the all-star game.....

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 10:45 PM
Great game.

Will Smith and Alanis Morrisette? What year is this again? 1998?

I would rather hear RON ARTEST rap than Will Smith. Would we have heard that crappy "Miami" song if the Heat were in the finals?



:-p (from his biggest fan :flirt: )

Sollozzo
06-09-2005, 10:48 PM
:-p (from his biggest fan :flirt: )


I'll admit that some of his stuff is funny, like "Fresh Prince of Belair." I like to watch that sometimes.

SoupIsGood
06-09-2005, 10:49 PM
:-p (from his biggest fan :flirt: )

Artest or Smith?

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 10:49 PM
3 from Ginobili

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Artest or Smith?

Both actually :laugh: I like Smith a lot because his lyrics are really fun to listen to, and they aren't filled with **** or ***** every 3 lines. He did a really good job with the album that just came out, Lost and Found.

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 10:51 PM
Ben Wallace is a ****ing pansy...play like a forward, you ****er

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 10:57 PM
Mohammed with the crazy shot.

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 10:57 PM
Very good game so far

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 10:59 PM
GRobb is playing well for the Spurs tonight in short minutes

:spurs: 46
:thepiston 43

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 10:59 PM
Duncan's 17 pts are very quiet...thats why he's so good

Cactus Jax
06-09-2005, 11:02 PM
We also have a few guys - Sheed, Billups and Rip- that have given SA fits, Sheed especially.

Rasheed Wallace plays better against Tim Duncan than any other player in the NBA. So much of Rasheed's offensive production is based off of motivation, and there's no greater challenge at PF than Tim Duncan.

The Pistons have one advantage that no other NBA team has- they don't really have to double tim duncan. Sheed bothers the living crap out of him.


:shakehead

Not so far anyway. Those regular season stops don't matter.

BabbleOn
06-09-2005, 11:02 PM
Spurs are controlling the tempo right now. Actually, they have ever since Lindsey Hunter came in the game in the first quarter.


damn, they play great defense (the spurs).

SoupIsGood
06-09-2005, 11:03 PM
Both actually :laugh: I like Smith a lot because his lyrics are really fun to listen to, and they aren't filled with **** or ***** every 3 lines. He did a really good job with the album that just came out, Lost and Found.

I will agree with you about the lack of cussing, that is refreshing.

I'm just not a big rap/hip-hop fan.

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 11:06 PM
I will agree with you about the lack of cussing, that is refreshing.

I'm just not a big rap/hip-hop fan.

That's cool. It's funny because in the new album, he really makes fun of everyone else, it's hilarious


In other news, Spurs up 4 :o

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 11:08 PM
:spurs: 49
:thepiston 47

3ptmiller
06-09-2005, 11:12 PM
Damn this game looks tight!

Jon Theodore
06-09-2005, 11:13 PM
Will smith is not cool. And how much cooler would this series be if Reggie was involved...I mean go spurs.

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:14 PM
There have been so many good blocks in this game.

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:15 PM
This just in: Prince has been shot for the 30th time in his career.

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 11:17 PM
After 3 Quarters:
:spurs: 55
:thepiston 51


So close on that last shot by Ginobilli....

canyoufeelit
06-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Holy crap, Spurs defense is just plain nasty right now. Detroit is in big trouble because they run so much offense through Rip, yet Bowen has him in an absolute defensive straitjacket right now.

As for the talk of Sheed giving Duncan problems one on one, that's baloney. Maybe a couple of blocks. Sheed is a great defender, but Duncan is an incredibly polished post scorer...you could build a brick wall in front of the basket and he'll still score. They have to double because you can push Shaq off the block and give him 10 footers and he won't make those chippies, but Duncan usually will. And in the rare event he misses the refs usually will call a phantom foul to make up for that

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Sorry Big Ben, the ref ain't buying it this time... :laugh:

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:23 PM
HOW DARE YOU NOT BUY MY FLOP WHEN I'M GUARDING A LITTLE GUY!?!?!?! :arrgh:

Hoop
06-09-2005, 11:24 PM
Ben go floppy, Ben get mad. :laugh:

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:25 PM
This is why I love the Spurs. Things get physical, they 9/10 shut up and play through it. The Pistons, when it happens and it's not to their advantage, flop and whine 9/10.

3ptmiller
06-09-2005, 11:27 PM
Tim Duncan 20 pts, 16 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 assists.... thats what i call a good baller! and the game is not over yet!

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:31 PM
:eek2: MY. GOD.

Suaveness
06-09-2005, 11:31 PM
This game is over

Shade
06-09-2005, 11:31 PM
It should be pretty obvious now that Duncan > Shaq.

If the Pistons let this one slip away, this could end up being a very short series.

As I write this, the Spurs go up by 12. :eek:

The Pistons are REALLY good, but the Spurs are REALLY, REALLY good.

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:31 PM
Tim Duncan 20 pts, 16 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 assists.... thats what i call a good baller! and the game is not over yet!

And he's doing it being guarded by Rasheed Wallace and the Piston's team defense, too.

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 11:32 PM
:spurs: 67
:thepiston 55


Ginobilli putting on a show... :lurk:

Dr Huxtable
06-09-2005, 11:36 PM
:laugh: I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh when they showed the nun jumping up and down cheering after Manu did something. :laugh:

Shade
06-09-2005, 11:38 PM
Duncan is awesome. Just awesome. Sheed can't do ANYTHING to stop him right now. :jawdrop:

waterjater
06-09-2005, 11:40 PM
Damn!! The Spurs are really AWESOME! Wow!

Gonna be a good series.

Water

3ptmiller
06-09-2005, 11:41 PM
the Pistons cant handle them... forget it

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:44 PM
The Pistons are REALLY good, but the Spurs are REALLY, REALLY good.

That sums up my feelings on this.

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:49 PM
I :love: Manu Ginobili.

3ptmiller
06-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Me looovez ginobili!

WEST
06-09-2005, 11:52 PM
Manu is a stud, theres no question about it

3ptmiller
06-09-2005, 11:53 PM
He is humiliating them! :D

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 11:53 PM
Manu with 26 pts in the game after that last basket

BostonConnection
06-09-2005, 11:55 PM
Final:
:spurs: 84
:thepiston 69

Shade
06-09-2005, 11:56 PM
Spurs 84, Pistons 69

That was a more than 30-point turnaround by SA. :eek2:

Hicks
06-09-2005, 11:56 PM
How good are the Spurs? They "pull a Detroit" ON Detroit. Held them under 70, winning by scoring in the mid 80s. This is just a terrific basketball team.

This was a great game.

Shade
06-09-2005, 11:58 PM
How good are the Spurs? They "pull a Detroit" ON Detroit. Held them under 70, winning by scoring in the mid 80s. This is just a terrific basketball team.

This was a great game.

The Spurs are a truly rare team, one that can beat you at your own game regardless of whether it is up tempo, run-and-gun or slow, grind-it-out.

Detroit is in serious trouble. They could get nailed by a "5-game sweep" of their own this time.

ChicagoJ
06-09-2005, 11:58 PM
Is Ginobolli a better name for a boy or for a girl?

If he played a game like that for the Pacers, that's what I would name my next child.

Hicks
06-10-2005, 12:00 AM
The Spurs are a truly rare team, one that can beat you at your own game regardless of whether it is up tempo, run-and-gun or slow, grind-it-out.

It's really amazing. They beat the Suns with both teams scoring in the 100s. Now they beat Detroit tonight playing EXCELLENT defense, smart offense, and good pace. Even coming back from a big early defecit. Wow.

3ptmiller
06-10-2005, 12:00 AM
Kstat? :lurk:

Suaveness
06-10-2005, 12:02 AM
Is Ginobolli a better name for a boy or for a girl?

If he played a game like that for the Pacers, that's what I would name my next child.

:laugh: If you do, then we have to arrange Ginobili to come to Indiana

Kstat
06-10-2005, 12:04 AM
Kstat? :lurk:

I could count the Pistons that played scared tonight, but it might take me all night.

I'm actually as pleased as you could be after a game 1 loss. San Antonio played a great game, but I'm happy how we matched up with them. I look for a completely different game in game 2.

Furthermore, Rasheed proved to me that he could contain Tim Duncan. Yeah, Duncan put up big numbers, but Duncan also hit quite a lot of lucky shots.

Arroyo and Dice were visibly jittery tonight in their first finals. I din't expect that to happen again.

shags
06-10-2005, 12:07 AM
I can tell you one person who won't be pleased at all:

Gregg Popovich.

BostonConnection
06-10-2005, 12:07 AM
FINAL TEAM STATS
<table>
<tr><td colspan="13" class="head" align="center" bgcolor=red><strong>SAN ANTONIO SPURS</strong></td></tr>
<tr class="xb" align="right" bgcolor="#cccccc"><td colspan="2" align="left">TOTALS</td><td nowrap="nowrap">FGM-A</td><td>3PM-A</td><td>FTM-A</td><td>OREB</td><td>REB</td><td>AST</td><td>STL</td><td>BLK</td><td>TO</td><td>PF</td><td>PTS</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ececec"><td colspan="2" align="left"></td><td><strong>34-79</strong></td><td><strong>4-13</strong></td><td><strong>12-15</strong></td><td><strong>15</strong></td><td><strong>49</strong></td><td><strong>12</strong></td><td><strong>3</strong></td><td><strong>8</strong></td><td><strong>14</strong></td><td><strong>17</strong></td><td><strong>84</strong></td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td colspan="2" align="left"><strong></strong></td><td><strong>43.0%</strong></td><td><strong>30.8%</strong></td><td><strong>80.0%</strong></td><td colspan="8">Team TO (pts off): 14 (19)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td colspan="13">&nbsp;</td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="13" class="head" align="center" bgcolor=blue><strong>DETROIT PISTONS</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr class="xb" align="right" bgcolor="#cccccc"><td colspan="2" align="left">TOTALS</td><td nowrap="nowrap">FGM-A</td><td>3PM-A</td><td>FTM-A</td><td>OREB</td><td>REB</td><td>AST</td><td>STL</td><td>BLK</td><td>TO</td><td>PF</td><td>PTS</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ececec"><td colspan="2" align="left"></td><td><strong>29-77</strong></td><td><strong>1-6</strong></td><td><strong>10-14</strong></td><td><strong>11</strong></td><td><strong>35</strong></td><td><strong>15</strong></td><td><strong>12</strong></td><td><strong>10</strong></td><td><strong>11</strong></td><td><strong>19</strong></td><td><strong>69</strong></td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td colspan="2" align="left"><strong></strong></td><td><strong>37.7%</strong></td><td><strong>16.7%</strong></td><td><strong>71.4%</strong></td><td colspan="8">Team TO (pts off): 11 (15)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td colspan="13">&nbsp;</td></tr>
</table>

NorCal_Pacerfan
06-10-2005, 12:08 AM
Spurs > Pistons

I somehow knew that the Spurs would win this one. I also pick the Spurs in 5.

What a sahweeet fourth quarter. Manu was amazing - again. He cuts and dices his way to the basket and makes crazy shots out of nothing.

The only thing better than this game was games 2 and 3 of the Pacers/Pistons series.

I still can't wait for next year.

shags
06-10-2005, 12:12 AM
I thought Bruce Bowen played one of the best scoreless games I've ever seen.

dannyboy
06-10-2005, 12:18 AM
I thought Bruce Bowen played one of the best scoreless games I've ever seen.

I guess so, if you disregard the multiple airballs....

EDIT: I saw the Spurs Mascot standing behind Tim Duncan during his post game interview wearing one of the old "Don't Mess With Texas" T-Shirts.

Made me smile.

pacerwaala
06-10-2005, 12:19 AM
I would love to see RA guard Manu. Oh well! I will wait till next year's regular season!

Cactus Jax
06-10-2005, 12:19 AM
I thought Bruce Bowen played one of the best scoreless games I've ever seen.

Does it rank up there with the multiple Michael Curry scoreless masterpieces???

SycamoreKen
06-10-2005, 12:23 AM
I would love to see RA guard Manu. Oh well! I will wait till next year's regular season!

He would probably do what Price did, watch as he dribbled past him. Ron isn't as quick as Manu is.

By the way Morrisette (sp?) became a US citizen 3 months ago.

Great game by the Spurs. Sunday should be fun.

shags
06-10-2005, 12:24 AM
Does it rank up there with the multiple Michael Curry scoreless masterpieces???

In Rick Carlisle's mind, NOTHING matched Michael Curry's scoreless masterpieces. :)

Shade
06-10-2005, 12:28 AM
I could count the Pistons that played scared tonight, but it might take me all night.

I'm actually as pleased as you could be after a game 1 loss. San Antonio played a great game, but I'm happy how we matched up with them. I look for a completely different game in game 2.

Furthermore, Rasheed proved to me that he could contain Tim Duncan. Yeah, Duncan put up big numbers, but Duncan also hit quite a lot of lucky shots.

Arroyo and Dice were visibly jittery tonight in their first finals. I din't expect that to happen again.

Sheed did NOTHING to contain Duncan. In case you haven't noticed, Tim has been hitting those "lucky shots" his entire career. That's why he's arguably the best player in the game. And, how do you explain the nearly 20 boards?

Arroyo and Dice were jittery becuase they were finally playing against a good defense. No open looks for Dice, and no easy passes for Carlos.

If the Pistons are "playing scared," then this series is already over.

Kstat
06-10-2005, 12:42 AM
Sheed did NOTHING to contain Duncan. In case you haven't noticed, Tim has been hitting those "lucky shots" his entire career. That's why he's arguably the best player in the game. And, how do you explain the nearly 20 boards?

Arroyo and Dice were jittery becuase they were finally playing against a good defense. No open looks for Dice, and no easy passes for Carlos.

If the Pistons are "playing scared," then this series is already over.

NOTHING :laugh: he only blocked Duncan about 5 times.....

Howver, we must have set some kind of an NBA record tonight for blocked shots that bounced right into the hands of a teamate for a layup. Thats the kind of lucky stuff I'm talking about. Every time we made a defensive play and knocked the ball lose, it ALWAYS magically bounced into the hands of another spur underneath the hoop. I swear our blocks are more accurate than their PASSES.

Tim was 10-22 tonight, with a few turnovers. I can live with that. The rebounds, however, are different.

Still, this falls in the hands of the rest of the guys for not making Duncan play DEFENSE.

Duncan can't guard Rasheed Wallace. The problem is, Rasheed never got the BALL.

Billups can manhandle PArker about any time he wants to. But he needs to pick hsi spots better, and get sheed the ball in the post.

pacerwaala
06-10-2005, 12:45 AM
I could count the Pistons that played scared tonight, but it might take me all night.

I'm actually as pleased as you could be after a game 1 loss. San Antonio played a great game, but I'm happy how we matched up with them. I look for a completely different game in game 2.

Furthermore, Rasheed proved to me that he could contain Tim Duncan. Yeah, Duncan put up big numbers, but Duncan also hit quite a lot of lucky shots.

Arroyo and Dice were visibly jittery tonight in their first finals. I din't expect that to happen again.


Kstat, Rasheed did play very very good D on TD but you can't argue against 24 points and 17 rebounds.

The wrong big men of Detroit(Ben and Antonio) were trying to set picks for Chauncy on the top of the key and SA was trapping him and making him give up his dribble. I think Rasheed should be doing that so that he can get open for a three and SA's big man cannot help on the pick. Just my IMHO.


Both teams played very good defense though.

Unclebuck
06-10-2005, 08:55 AM
I thought Sheed defended Tim as well as you can. Sheed might be the best low post one-on-one defender in the whole NBA.

In the first quarter it was interesting. The Spurs were a little rusty, but I think the Pistons defense took them by surprise. (Nugs, Sonics, Suns cannot prepare you for the Pistons defense) But after the first quarter the Spurs found their groove a little offensively and I think the Pistons energy got worse as the game went on.

On the other end of the floor, the Spurs caused the Pistons offense to look horrible, part of that was the Pistons horrible play, but the Spurs defense is the best they've played also. Pistons bench was beyond bad, if I were a istons fan I would be screaming to get Mike James back, Carlos is very frustrating, he seemed either overwhelmed or just over-matched.

Hamilton missed a lot of shots he normally makes, so yes Bowen does a nice job, probably better than anyone in the NBA, but Hamilton will make a t of those shots next game. Also Tay missed some shots he normally makes. And yes get the ball to Sheed.

able
06-10-2005, 09:27 AM
UB unfortunately I do not completely agree with you.

What I noticed is basically what I already noticed from the Spurs against the Suns, they have a multitude of gears they can switch into, it's almost scary.

1st of all the Spurs play absolute lockdown defense, IMO even better then the Pistons, and that says something.
2ndly they have simply to much talent on their team AND bench to overcome.

All those little pass-alterations the Pistons do, Spurs do them just as much, let's face it 10 blocks for the Pistons, but 8 for the Spurs it is still a "large" number either way.

All those Pistons blocks falling in the Spurs hands, ok if I was a fan of the Pistons I to would say (hope) that it was luck, but that luck seems to occur on any game they play, it was the same all playoffs long, all year long.

Spurs were the number 1 defending team in the NBA this year and not by mistake.

Despite what others might think, in my opinion the Spurs will win this in 5.

They are just THAT good.

Once they shook the rust off, they switched up a few gears and away they went.
Pistons might have had an "off" night shooting, but like all teams have these nights frequently against the Pistons, so do they against the Spurs, it's not called a "bad" night, it is called lockdown defense.

And you got to wonder, if Rasheed had a top defending job against TD (which in my opinion was the case) and TD still takes 24 pts and 17 boards, what if he has a bad night on defense?

sc
06-10-2005, 11:53 AM
Spurs were better no doubt, however Detroit can not win with their Guards taking that many shots. It has proved costly in every round.

I did not see a scared Arroyo, I saw the same Arroyo as always making stupid plays.

If you swat the Pistons they will not attack the rim anymore. That is the key, once someone is swatted on that team they are done and will resort to jump shoots.

CableKC
06-10-2005, 12:47 PM
I was stoked that the Spurs won.....or more specifically that the Pistons lost.

Although it would be nice for the Spurs to sweep or beat the Pistons in 5.....ohhhhh the irony.....this will go down to a 6 game NBA final.

It sucks that the Pacers won't be the 2005 NBA champs.......but the Spurs being the 2005 NBA champs would be a nice consolation prize.

Unclebuck
06-10-2005, 02:04 PM
And you got to wonder, if Rasheed had a top defending job against TD (which in my opinion was the case) and TD still takes 24 pts and 17 boards, what if he has a bad night on defense?


He'd get 50 points if the Pistons defended him on-on-one and if the Spurs went to him more. 24 points is not very many for Duncan

Pistons biggest problems were rebounding and their offense. Spurs only scored 84 points and what did they shoot

Kstat
06-10-2005, 08:09 PM
only.......one.....game.....lol

The Pistons have one edge over the spurs, and that's mental toughness. Not that the Spurs aren't tough, its just these pistons are the gutsiest team I've seen in 10 years. When they have to get a win, I have every confidence that they will.

Anyone who think this will be a quick series will be very disappointed.