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    Montieth denies your existence. June 9.



    Question:     The Pacers' season has just ended and I'm already looking forward to next year. Point guard is a need position due to Jamaal Tinsley's inability to stay healthy. From what I've read, Jay Williams' rehab seems to be going well and he hopes to be on a roster next season.

    Do the Pacers have any interest in this former second overall pick in the draft? If he is healthy he could really help the Pacer get up and down the floor next year. (Steve from Zionsville, Ind.)

    Answer: Funny you should ask. I just got off the phone with a representative of Williams about an hour ago and he said the Pacers have shown interest. I'll be going to Chicago for the pre-draft camp this week and will try to connect with Williams. He seems a natural fit for the Pacers, but also for other teams. There could be a mini-bidding war for his contract if he proves he's recovered from the injuries suffered in his motorcycle accident.


    Question: Looking at the upcoming draft, there has been one person that should be around when the Pacers use their 17th pick that has caught my eye: Rudy Fernandez from Spain. What do you think of his fit with the Pacers (versatility as a shooting guard/point guard) and the chances of the Pacers drafting him, even though it might require a buyout of his contract with Barcelona? (David from Carrollton, Texas)

    Answer: My early, off-the-cuff prediction is that the Pacers will draft a European player, most likely a guard. Fernandez fits that description perfectly. He's 20 years old, and at 6-5 is regarded as a combo guard.

    He's said to be athletic, intelligent and a solid defender. He needs to get stronger, but that would be true for every 20-year-old NBA prospect. I don't know what it would take to buy out his contract, but a team could always let him stay in Europe for another year or two.


    Question: With you writing that the Pacers gave Reggie Miller a three-year contract to stay under the luxury tax threshold, can you tell me how much in the last two years has been paid to the NBA in luxury tax? I know we could not afford to keep Brad Miller because of that tax -- that is the stance the Pacers made.

    So, assuming we had signed Reggie to a two-year contract at the same amount that we signed him for in his three-year contract and we signed Brad Miller to the contract that he has with Sacramento, how much, in the last two seasons, would we have paid in luxury tax, and what team has paid the most as a team in luxury tax in the last two years? (Rich from Westfield, Ind.)

    Answer: I don't know how much the NBA has collected in luxury tax revenues, but it's a lot. A whole lot. Or, as Shaq would say, a whole lotta lotta lot. The Knicks and Dallas have paid the most in luxury tax penalties. I don't have exact figures, but I would estimate they both paid roughly $35 million a year ago. It doesn't appear there will be a tax for this past season, however, because of the league's basketball-related revenues.

    As for the Pacers, if they had signed R. Miller to a two-year deal and kept B. Miller, I estimate they would have paid $5-6 million in tax penalties a year ago. Again, however, there might not be a tax this year.


    Question: With Chuck Person taking over on the bench do you think that will give way to Sam Perkins coming in and becoming a special assistant? I'd love to see Smooth work for the Pacers. I think it speaks hugely that of the teams he played for the Pacers are the one he wants to work for. (Curtis from Fishers, Ind.)

    Answer: I wouldn't be surprised to see Perkins working for the Pacers someday. He told me during the playoff series with Boston that he'd like to do so. I asked Larry Bird about it and he has interest, but he had no positions available at the time.

    I don't know if Person's move to the bench will open one, but it's always possible. If the Pacers really want to hire him they can always create a position. Maybe Perkins can be the coach in charge of flat-footed 3-pointers, huh?


    Question: With Memphis getting ready to release Bonzi Wells, is there any chance the Pacers would try to sign him with the mid-level exception? His stock has dropped, but maybe a return to Indiana and the discipline of Larry Bird and Rick Carlisle is what he needs. But with Ron Artest, would another player with discipline issues be too much? (Jason from Summitville, Ind.)

    Answer: I don't expect the Pacers to pursue Wells. They don't have room for him on the roster if they re-sign Dale Davis and James Jones, unless they make a trade that opens a spot. They also don't have a great need for another player at his position of shooting guard/small forward.

    Wells is close with Jermaine O'Neal from their days together in Portland and went to the Pacers' locker room to visit with O'Neal after the Pacers last played there. He's also got ample talent. But I don't see the Pacers having great interest in him. He's had problems with the coaches in Portland and Memphis, and was told to stay home during the playoffs this season.


    Question: I had a real quick question regarding Reggie Miller's future induction into the Hall of Fame. If the Pacers pay him for this upcoming season and if he is not officially retired, does that push his earliest possible Hall of Fame induction back a year? (Ben from Bellevue, Neb.)

    Answer: This is a good question. I don't believe it will affect Miller's induction if he receives that honor, though. The Hall of Fame's rule is that "a player must be fully retired for five years before being eligible for Enshrinement. Should a player come out of retirement for a short period of time ... his/her case and eligibility for Enshrinement shall be reviewed on an individual basis."

    That leads me to believe the Hall would have the discretion of deciding Miller's case, and since he isn't likely to play next season, he can get in five years from now regardless of whether he gets paid next season.


    Question: How did the Indiana Pacers get the name "Pacers"? What is the history or origin of that name? (K. from Indianapolis)

    Answer: The widespread assumption is that it relates to the pace cars at the Indianapolis 500. It's really more connected with harness racing, however. A "pacer" is a harness racing horse, and that sport once was popular at the State Fairgrounds where the Pacers first played (in what is now the Pepsi Coliseum). The pace car connection was an added bonus link, really.

    You didn't ask, but their colors are blue and gold because those are the state of Indiana's official colors. Also, some of the founders of the franchise were Notre Dame grads, and those are the university's colors as well.

    That's one thing that's puzzled me, though. If the Pacers' colors are blue and gold, why are their uniforms yellow? Gold seems to be a tricky color; you see a lot of variations of it in uniforms. Purdue, for example, has had about a dozen versions of gold in its uniforms over the last 25 years.


    Question: I love reading your column, and first want to thank you for taking the time to answer and research everyone's questions. With the obvious majority of basketball fans really taking to Reggie Miller, do you think the NBA will be putting out a highlight video of Reggie like they have done with MJ?

    I think it only makes perfect business sense to do so, seeing as how the NBA owns all the footage of Reggie's remarkable and historic feats. (James from Richmond, Ind.)

    Answer: You did such a good job of sucking up to me that I called the NBA on your behalf and was told they have no plans at this time for a Reggie Miller video. It seems like a good idea, however. He provided plenty of highlights in his 18 seasons. Perhaps they'll do one later.
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    Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

    Originally posted by Hicks
    Question: The Pacers' season has just ended and I'm already looking forward to next year. Point guard is a need position due to Jamaal Tinsley's inability to stay healthy. From what I've read, Jay Williams' rehab seems to be going well and he hopes to be on a roster next season.

    Do the Pacers have any interest in this former second overall pick in the draft? If he is healthy he could really help the Pacer get up and down the floor next year. (Steve from Zionsville, Ind.)

    Answer: Funny you should ask. I just got off the phone with a representative of Williams about an hour ago and he said the Pacers have shown interest. I'll be going to Chicago for the pre-draft camp this week and will try to connect with Williams. He seems a natural fit for the Pacers, but also for other teams. There could be a mini-bidding war for his contract if he proves he's recovered from the injuries suffered in his motorcycle accident.
    "I'll always be a part of Donnie Walsh."
    -Ron Artest, Denver Post, 12.28.05

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    • #3
      Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

      I'm dense...whose existence did he deny in this article??????????
      Ever notice how friendly folks are at a shootin' range??.

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      • #4
        Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

        Originally posted by Hicks
        [b]

        Question: Looking at the upcoming draft, there has been one person that should be around when the Pacers use their 17th pick that has caught my eye: Rudy Fernandez from Spain. What do you think of his fit with the Pacers (versatility as a shooting guard/point guard) and the chances of the Pacers drafting him, even though it might require a buyout of his contract with Barcelona? (David from Carrollton, Texas)

        Answer: My early, off-the-cuff prediction is that the Pacers will draft a European player, most likely a guard. Fernandez fits that description perfectly. He's 20 years old, and at 6-5 is regarded as a combo guard.

        He's said to be athletic, intelligent and a solid defender. He needs to get stronger, but that would be true for every 20-year-old NBA prospect. I don't know what it would take to buy out his contract, but a team could always let him stay in Europe for another year or two.
        Hoopshype: "Position: SG
        Height: 6-5 / 1,96
        Weight: 185 lbs. / 83,9 kg.
        Born: 4/04/85
        Hometown: Palma de Mallorca (Spain)
        Strengths: Outstanding athleticism... Great legs... Very good creating his own shot... Very talented on the offensive end... Good defender on the ball.
        Weaknesses: Too weak for the NBA game.
        Season highs: 16 points vs. Bamberg, six rebounds vs. Pivovarna Lasko and four assists vs. Bamberg.
        Grew up with San Jose Obrero Palma de Mallorca (Spain) youth teams.
        Played with Joventut Badalona (Spain) youth teams until 2003.
        Made his pro debut with Joventut Badalona (Spain) in 2002. Under contract till 2009.
        Won the bronze medal at the European Cadets Championship with the Spanish National Team in 2001.
        Named MVP of the Spanish Cup in 2004.
        His sister Marta Fernandez is a member of the Spanish National Team"

        NBA Draft.net

        "
        Rudy Fernandez
        Birthdate: 4/4/85
        NBA Position: PG/SG
        Ht: 6-5
        Wt: 180
        Int Team: Joventut Badalona
        Hometown: Palma de Mallorca, Spain
        ULEB Profile
        ACB
        Stats

        Strengths: An impressive talent, wise beyond his years ... Seems better every time you see him ...He has a wonderful bag of tricks, especially offensively ... Excellent one on one guy ... He knows how to take what the defense gives him, knows when to pull up, when to drive and when to pass... In his first "true" year, he had a fantastic season, putting up over double figures in scoring in the most important (toughest) league in Europe ... He has good numbers, but you have to see him play to truly understand how talented he is ... He is so fluid, so composed, so smooth and always under control, he makes the game look so easy... He is not too aggressive but not afraid either ... He makes great decisions, and never gets out of control, which is incredible considering his age ... He has such a court awareness, and always knows how to make the right play, without thinking of himself ahe puts the team first ... He could still be growing and has long arms which add to his length ... He has been playing at the SF spot for Badalona, but can handle either guard positions as well ... Unlike many players as athletic as he is, he doesn't rely on it ... He uses intelligence and skills instead ... Has good quickness and speed and is extremely fluid ... His first step is insane, as is his ability to start and stop ... He's always on balance ... Really excells when pressured and understands how to handle a press ... Stays within the system well ... Uses screens well to gain separation for shots or drives ... He doesn't like to drive into traffic because of his skinny frame, but he is not afraid of contact and if he sees daylight he'll go to the hoop fearlessly ... He has great skills (like Navarro of Spain) to let the ball go early against big men ... He loves to take the big shot and excels in important situations ... He has nice change of speed with the ball in his hands and very good ball handling making him dangerous with the dribble. He also passes extremely well, beating the double team and finding the open man ... He has great vision, he doesn't look for the "oooooh" pass, but the easy (and right) one…. Very good free throw shooter ... In the open court he can lead the fastbreak or fill the lane… he likes to run and the main thing is how fast he is able to change from defense to the break ... He can come off the bench and get into the flow of scoring very quickly …. He can defend bigger players and quicker ones ... Has very quick hands, and reads the passing lanes, and can rip someone from the dibble … With Badalona he lacks touches, because he is not the star of the team. But he is showing glimpses of what the future has in store and that is great things at the highest level: NBA ...


        Weaknesses: Physically he must get stronger ... He still can get muscled around because of his lack of physical strength ... Doesn't blow you away with athleticism ... He's not a huge leaper, but is a nice athlete that can get to the rim without any problem ... In the NBA he will struggle defensively until he gets stronger ...

        Notes: Currently playing with the Spanish National Team where he is already seeing minutes at 19 years of age! Last year he signed a long term deal with Badalona which could make his buyout a little difficult.

        -Cristian Biagini -- 7/29/04"
        Here, everyone have a : on me

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        • #5
          Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

          Originally posted by indygeezer
          I'm dense...whose existence did he deny in this article??????????
          Yours.
          Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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          • #6
            Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

            Originally posted by indygeezer
            I'm dense...whose existence did he deny in this article??????????
            I'm just kidding around. I get tired of saying "Answers your questions".

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            • #7
              Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

              Darn. I was looking for him to say something like, "Those idiots that sip the haterade over at PD just don't have a clue what's going on..."
              Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
              Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
              Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
              Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
              And life itself, rushing over me
              Life itself, the wind in black elms,
              Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you

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              • #8
                Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

                Originally posted by Jay@Section204
                Darn. I was looking for him to say something like, "Those idiots that sip the haterade over at PD just don't have a clue what's going on..."
                Were you READING my mind???
                2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

                2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

                2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up, sports.ws

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                • #9
                  Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

                  Originally posted by Mourning
                  Were you READING my mind???

                  yeah, that's what I was watching for too. Nice hook Hicks.
                  Ever notice how friendly folks are at a shootin' range??.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

                    Originally posted by Hicks
                    I'm just kidding around. I get tired of saying "Answers your questions".
                    Ahhhh so that was humor....
                    I was trying to figure out what you were talking about as well.

                    Humor is a funny thing...

                    -Bball
                    Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

                    ------

                    "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

                    -John Wooden

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                    • #11
                      Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

                      I don't get it either

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                      • #12
                        Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

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                        3. Of or relating to an event in which all outcomes are equally likely, as in the testing of a blood sample for the presence of a substance.

                        Idiom:
                        at random
                        Without a governing design, method, or purpose; unsystematically: chose a card at random from the deck.
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                        n.
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                          2. Aqueous humor.
                          3. Vitreous humor.
                        6. A person's characteristic disposition or temperament: a boy of sullen humor.
                        7. An often temporary state of mind; a mood: I'm in no humor to argue.
                          1. A sudden, unanticipated whim. See Synonyms at mood1.
                          2. Capricious or peculiar behavior.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

                          Originally posted by Hicks
                          ran·dom ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rndm)
                          adj.
                          1. Having no specific pattern, purpose, or objective: random movements. See Synonyms at chance.
                          2. Mathematics & Statistics. Of or relating to a type of circumstance or event that is described by a probability distribution.
                          3. Of or relating to an event in which all outcomes are equally likely, as in the testing of a blood sample for the presence of a substance.

                          Idiom:
                          at random
                          Without a governing design, method, or purpose; unsystematically: chose a card at random from the deck.
                          hu·mor ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hymr)
                          n.
                          1. The quality that makes something laughable or amusing; funniness: could not see the humor of the situation.
                          2. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
                          3. The ability to perceive, enjoy, or express what is amusing, comical, incongruous, or absurd. See Synonyms at wit1.
                          4. One of the four fluids of the body, blood, phlegm, choler, and black bile, whose relative proportions were thought in ancient and medieval physiology to determine a person's disposition and general health.
                          5. Physiology.
                            1. A body fluid, such as blood, lymph, or bile.
                            2. Aqueous humor.
                            3. Vitreous humor.
                          6. A person's characteristic disposition or temperament: a boy of sullen humor.
                          7. An often temporary state of mind; a mood: I'm in no humor to argue.
                            1. A sudden, unanticipated whim. See Synonyms at mood1.
                            2. Capricious or peculiar behavior.
                          Still not used to being out of class yet are we? [grin]

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                          • #14
                            Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

                            Originally posted by Jay@Section204
                            Darn. I was looking for him to say something like, "Those idiots that sip the haterade over at PD just don't have a clue what's going on..."
                            He did say that but nobody believed him.

                            I would rather be the hammer than the nail

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                            • #15
                              Re: Montieth denies your existence. June 9.

                              Hoopshype has another 6'5" European Guard Roko Ukic with talent
                              "He wanted to get to that money time. Time when the hardware was on the table. That's when Roger was going to show up. So all we needed to do was stay close"
                              Darnell Hillman (Speaking of former teammate Roger Brown)

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