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Mr. Pink
05-17-2005, 12:46 AM
During the shoot around at Game 4, I saw David come out dressed in some practice gear. I thought, "Yes! Maybe he's able to play now." He looked rusty, almost like it was his first time shooting around. He still worked up a pretty good sweat though...probally cause he's a lil chunky.

Either way, when he came over to sign autographs a lil convo formed:

Me - "How's your knee?"

DH - "It's better."

Me - "I can't wait to see you play next year."

DH - "I just can't wait to play."

2 things stuck out to me from this. 1.) His knee is getting better, but not close to where he or the Pacer Staff wants it. 2.) He's hungry to play. That could be said about any player right now during the play-offs, but still...with all that talk about his work ethic and such, I think they got it all wrong. He was out there shooting around for a good 20 minutes doing shooting drills.

THE BEST OF LUCK TO YA DAVID!

Jermaniac
05-17-2005, 12:52 AM
He cant play, he isnt on the playoff roster.

Kstat
05-17-2005, 12:56 AM
He can play about the same time Carlos Delfino can.

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 12:58 AM
Yeah, he can't play until next season.

Or, I'm sorry. He can't win most improved player until next season. :sunshine::love::):):D:cool::happydanc:dance::ange l::woot:

Mr. Pink
05-17-2005, 09:14 AM
I know he can't play in the playoffs! Give me some credit.

I meant has anyone officially heard anything about his knee?

grace
05-17-2005, 10:30 AM
I meant has anyone officially heard anything about his knee?

Last I heard from the medical staff they said he still had two knees. Other than that I don't think they know.;)

PacerMan
05-17-2005, 04:00 PM
SI is reporting that they are very large knees.

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 05:00 PM
I say we trade the fool. He looks stupid behind the bench with his mohawk always smiling. He would appear to have no vested interest in the Pacers at all.

:banned:


:laugh:

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 05:06 PM
I can't hear you! Not listening! -la la la la....-

Since86
05-17-2005, 05:11 PM
I have a feeling this chuckle head isn't going to be around very long......

ChicagoJ
05-17-2005, 05:14 PM
As you can tell I post normally on Indystar. Have lurked here since November. Are you telling me I will banned for making fun of the softest player on the team?

No, but perhaps someone should tell you the story of good ole' Johnny B. :D

Since86
05-17-2005, 05:17 PM
You haven't said anything about Bender, for one. And banned just for making fun of Harrison? Hardly. But I imagine you're someone who's already been banned, so will get this name banned, or will end up saying something that violates the set up TOS.

If not, you're posts just won't show up on any screens because everyone will have you on ignore, so you'll end up talking to yourself. Either way, I say buh-bye.

Since86
05-17-2005, 05:18 PM
I called no members here names and in the ten minutes I have been posting today I have been called names on 2 occasions. Very classy place you have here :(

When I see a deer, I call it a deer. When I see horse, I call it a horse. When I see a chuckle head, I call it a chuckle head.

ChicagoJ
05-17-2005, 05:19 PM
I called no members here names and in the ten minutes I have been posting today I have been called names on 2 occasions. Very classy place you have here :(

Whether you've called anybody names or not, you've got to admit you've picked an interesting way to introduce yourself. You jump on va's case for his thread - now nobody likes redundant threads but just ask the admins to merge them, they do that all the time.

The you come into a thread about an inactive player and begin flaming away.

Nobody's sure what to think, yet. But it ain't looking good. :shrug:

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 05:20 PM
Man, a perfectly good DH thread got ruined by this troll's antics...

Since86
05-17-2005, 05:25 PM
Like I said real class.

When you come in, just to stir the pot, don't complain that it gets stirred.

Coming in flaming the way you have, then stating your from the star forums only shows that you're here after their thread on PD.

I post on the Star just as much as I post on here, and I can say that JOneal7 and Sassan have no room to complain. They were fun to have around, but took a dive quickly. Once you're warned, and continue to messup I have no sympathy for them, or should I say you?

ChicagoJ
05-17-2005, 05:31 PM
-snip-.....not to mention his comments about my hometown. The dude is immature and not a cog in the Pacers engine. I think he would better serve us as trade fodder than playing.


Okay, here's your chance.

I don't know what you're talking about (comments about your hometown) and I don't agree with you about his future with the Pacers.

Harrison's got a legit NBA body, he can carve out position in the paint. His hands are soft (unlike Dale, Jeff, and Scot), but they're small. He's shown a tendency to block out and help the team's rebounding even though he doesn't grab as many as we'd like. He's got a nice jump hook and other post moves. And in the East, that's enough to make him a top-five center in a year or two.

So explain yourself.

indygeezer
05-17-2005, 05:33 PM
Okay, here's your chance.

I don't know what you're talking about (comments about your hometown) and I don't agree with you about his future with the Pacers.

Harrison's got a legit NBA body, he can carve out position in the paint. His hands are soft (unlike Dale, Jeff, and Scot), but they're small. He's shown a tendency to block out and help the team's rebounding even though he doesn't grab as many as we'd like. He's got a nice jump hook and other post moves. And in the East, that's enough to make him a top-five center in a year or two.

So explain yourself.



I'm waiting...............




:lurk:

ChicagoJ
05-17-2005, 05:42 PM
Cant find a legit source now but found this on Pacer Nation. It was in several articles I remember. "Multiple sources claim that rookie center David Harrison was recently seen at an Indy nightclub stating he wishes he was traded because Indy is “too boring.”"


poor conditioning.
questionable work ethic.
appears to be telling jokes rather than showing support.
Has potential but has regressed since the stars have returned even when given playing time.


All this = trade bait

IMHO of course.

Thanks,

I'm concerned about his regressing, and God knows all these young guys and thier immaturity drives me batty, but I'd give him at least one more season before I even began thinking about writing him off.

And by the way, if you post like that, you'll be fine.

Since86
05-17-2005, 05:47 PM
Cant find a legit source now but found this on Pacer Nation. It was in several articles I remember. "Multiple sources claim that rookie center David Harrison was recently seen at an Indy nightclub stating he wishes he was traded because Indy is “too boring.”"


poor conditioning.
questionable work ethic.
appears to be telling jokes rather than showing support.
Has potential but has regressed since the stars have returned even when given playing time.


All this = trade bait

IMHO of course.

I've never once saw an article saying that, only posters. You think a guy that grew up in Nashville, then went to college in Boulder CO would complain about being bored in a city?

Harrison was in great condition, he just couldn't play because he was always in foul trouble.

When JO returned, that moved him down to the 3rd option off the bench. Pollard gets more PT than him, and when DD came in the picture he got even less. To say that he regressed when you don't watch practices and only see him play 3mins every 5th game or so isn't basing an opinion on much evidence, only biasness.

In addition, when you want to trade someone you talk them up, not down. You want to get as much as you can out of a player you're trading, and by bad mouthing him only lowers his value.

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 05:48 PM
I don't think he has regressed. When he returned from his concussion, he was much more adept at catching the ball, and rebounded pretty stong when he got playing time.

You also must keep in mind his knee was hurt pretty soon after he returned.

As for work ethic, what evidence do you have that he has a questionable work ethic, besides what the college draft analysts had to say? He lost some weight between the draft and the season, and I don't think he has slacked off any in his pro career...

As for telling jokes... he may be laid-back off the court, but when he plays, he plays tough and aggressive. I really don't know why his off-court demeanor would be such a concern...

PacerMan
05-17-2005, 05:50 PM
The coaching staff had nothing but praise for David's work ethic since the post draft time period. EVERYBODY gets soft when they have a hurt LEG and can't BE ON IT or exercise fully.
Give him a break, he's going to be a steal for us.
And be the big body that free's up Jermaine.

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 05:51 PM
Cant find a legit source now but found this on Pacer Nation. It was in several articles I remember. "Multiple sources claim that rookie center David Harrison was recently seen at an Indy nightclub stating he wishes he was traded because Indy is “too boring.”"




That story had no credibility, whatsoever...

Diamond Dave
05-17-2005, 05:51 PM
I am of the opinion that if a player doesnt want to be here......well you know the saying.

Probably explains my evergrowing patience with Bender and my lack thereof with Harrison. He should count himself lucky to be on a championship caliber team in his rookie season, yet he opens his mouth and out spews ignorance. I wish we could have Primoz back

You're basing this completely off anecdotal evidence, and its a rather harsh accusation. And did I just read that you are gaining more patience with Bender?

ChicagoJ
05-17-2005, 05:51 PM
Soup, as my fellow DH lover,

the regressing I'm concerned about isn't skill-related, but conditioning related.

But conditioning is always a big struggle for a rookie. There were lots of people ready to give up on Tinsley during his first two years for the exact same reason. And I'm glad we didn't. Patience.

(Dear God, I'm basking in the :sunshine: )

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 05:54 PM
Soup, as my fellow DH lover,

the regressing I'm concerned about isn't skill-related, but conditioning related.

But conditioning is always a big struggle for a rookie. There were lots of people ready to give up on Tinsley during his first two years for the exact same reason. And I'm glad we didn't. Patience.

(Dear God, I'm basking in the :sunshine: )

Yes, there is no doubt that conditioning is a concern for DH. Conditioning and foul trouble are the two things that could really stagnate his career, in my opinion.

But he will get overcome those obstacles. :sunshine:

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 05:58 PM
I find it unsettling any of the players can tell jokes laugh and gaff in the worst beating in Pacers playoff history. Take a pen write it down. If the PAcers lose this game tonight, when they look at the bench in the end....Harrison will have his head turned laughing and joking. As I said he has no vested interest.

Or maybe he was just trying to help his teammates lighten up a bit, and not get too down after a walloping?




And as far as lack of work ethic.....can you say Eddy Curry. Does he have to be in a contract year to be in shape?



So you are saying his work ethic will be less than stellar because Eddy Curry's was?

How logical. :rolleyes:

Since86
05-17-2005, 06:00 PM
No he is just cut from the same......overwight....... mold is all.

You say you're a tinsley fan? Conditioning was a HUGE factor all the way up until this year with him.

Can we say hypocrit?

SoupIsGood
05-17-2005, 06:01 PM
No he is just cut from the same......overwight....... mold is all.

That's fair I guess. But I'm willing to give David a year or two, I think he will overcome it.

Mourning
05-17-2005, 06:03 PM
Anyway, welcome to the board and good to have you here ;).

Regards,

Mourning :cool:

Diamond Dave
05-17-2005, 06:13 PM
Never dissed my city.....always played hard. I like him.

It may be a personality conflict. Like I said.....a hundred times....IMO

I also questioned Tinsleys ethic, but I like the guy so I guess I cut him more slack.

You don't even know that Harrison said anything. You're basing that off some other poster.

ChicagoJ
05-17-2005, 06:13 PM
I find it unsettling any of the players can tell jokes laugh and gaff in the worst beating in Pacers playoff history. Take a pen write it down. If the PAcers lose this game tonight, when they look at the bench in the end....Harrison will have his head turned laughing and joking. As I said he has no vested interest.

And as far as lack of work ethic.....can you say Eddy Curry. Does he have to be in a contract year to be in shape?

Harrison = overrated...particularly by some posters here.

again IMO

He's not on the active roster, and his knee is injured. He can't help them in the games, he can't help them in the practice, and he's probably thrilled to be making relatively big bucks and part of an NBA playoff experience, even as a front-row spectator. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. But that's just my :twocents:.

Since86
05-17-2005, 06:17 PM
How can we expect you to say it when you cant spell it.

As far as "dissing" you city, you're hearing it from people that don't hold any credibility. I heard John Doe was dissing Indy from my cousin's friend's cousin who attended college with a DJ of a club that over heard this conversation. :rolleyes: Until he comes out and says it, or is quoted by someone with credibility take it with a grain of salt.

As far as spelling, sorry I forgot my "e." Too bad you forgot your apostrophe in the word "can't."

Since86
05-17-2005, 06:18 PM
No it wasnt a poster....it was from a legit rag. I cant find it now. Until I hear him say something POSITIVE about the city then I only have that on which to base my opinion. If I am wrong or was mislead....well it wont be the first time nor the last.

That was posted on the IS forum. I remember reading someone posting it, and saying they talked to him in the club.

ChicagoJ
05-17-2005, 06:18 PM
Its possible, but with the feelings I already have toward the guy this only adds to my frustrations. Especially when they get beat so embarrassingly.

Fair enough.

Most of us are okay with the fact that we're all biased in some form or another. But until you explain the bias to us we're just going to think you're trolling. That's the nature of the beast.

Doug
05-17-2005, 06:27 PM
Well, I think DH has done quite well considering where he was picked.

The concussion was pretty bad luck. At least I hope he's not prone to them.

The knee injury... It was bad enough for surgery, so I'll cut him some slack on that one.

Was conditioning a contributing factor? Maybe for the knee, but I'm not willing to assume that. Lots and lots of rookies have problems with conditioning as the season grinds on.

This summer (and probably the next one) will go a long way toward answering a lot of questions about his work ethic.

Anthem
05-17-2005, 06:34 PM
I'd just like to add that Foster was a foul magnet when he first got here. Not quite as much as David, but Foster had faster feet. That's one of David's problems... it makes it harder for him to adjust to the speed of the NBA game.

DisplacedKnick
05-17-2005, 06:36 PM
You won't know for sure until his 3rd year if he keeps his conditioning up or not. He did pretty well until the injury, then blimped on you.

Not uncommon for rookies to have trouble keeping their conditioning - there's a reason for the term "rookie wall."

Jose Slaughter
05-17-2005, 06:44 PM
I remember right after the draft it was reported that Harrison moved to Indy & spent the summer working with Bird & crew on conditioning.

What does that say for his work ethic.

I only get a chance to attend about one game a year. This season I got a chance to see the Memphis game. Harrison was on the court when I got there, about 45 minutes before tip off, working on his postioning & low post moves with Kevin O'Nell.

Like I said this is just a one time thing for me, maybe some of the season ticket holders can give their views.

grace
05-18-2005, 11:39 AM
You're posts just won't show up on any screens because everyone will have you on ignore, so you'll end up talking to yourself. Either way, I say buh-bye.

You got that right. Maybe I should start a contest: Be the 10th person on grace's ignore list!

grace
05-18-2005, 11:43 AM
Soup, as my fellow DH lover,

the regressing I'm concerned about isn't skill-related, but conditioning related.

But conditioning is always a big struggle for a rookie. There were lots of people ready to give up on Tinsley during his first two years for the exact same reason. And I'm glad we didn't. Patience.

(Dear God, I'm basking in the :sunshine: )

I don't know how people expected DH to stay in condition after his concussion. Depending on how bad his headaches were a lot of us probably wouldn't even want to get out of bed let alone go work out.

Mr. Pink
05-18-2005, 02:56 PM
Man...I thought we had some good information about David's knee!

David Harrison is gonna be good for this team. As much as I hate to bring this up again, but his injuries have held him back. Seems like we can always bring up injuries when talking about a Pacer.