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NorCal_Pacerfan
04-18-2005, 03:03 AM
The last two games have been tough, but I think it's working out in our favor.
Washington and Chicago can duke it out while we take on the Celts.

If we can take 'em down, it'll be payback. Plus, it'll give our guys more time to get in the swing of things with JO back. Who knows, maybe we'll get JT back by the second round? A small slump before the playoffs is better than a slump during the playoffs.

Bring on the first round...

Bball
04-18-2005, 03:31 AM
I'd rather go in on a winning streak and take whoever is waiting on us than to back in and hang my hat on the idea the seeding somehow gets us a more favorable matchup.

IOW, I'd rather take a winning streak against a tougher (on paper) team than a losing streak against anybody.

-Bball

NorCal_Pacerfan
04-18-2005, 03:54 AM
Well, I'd have to agree, but we haven't won the last two games. So, even if we win the next two, we aren't likely to move up in the seed dept.

I'm all about winning, no matter who we have to face. Hey, it's the playoffs and anything is possible no matter who we play. However, my point is simply that the 6 seed may be a blessing as opposed to the 5 or 7 seed. Then again, maybe not. But no matter what seed we end up with, I like to look at it on a positive note.

naptownmenace
04-18-2005, 09:07 AM
This way, if the Pacers get past the Celts, they'll play Detroit in the second round... that is if they can get past Philly (who I'm sure no one wants to play).

ajbry
04-18-2005, 09:35 AM
The Celts are an easy matchup. They won't really have much of an answer for anything, besides Walker and Pierce, and occassionally Ricky Davis. They have no legitimate size and their defense is pretty horrendous.

I just hope the Pacers land at 6, so I'll be able to go up into Boston and see a game!

Reggie4Three
04-18-2005, 10:10 AM
I think most people would rather play the Celtics than the Bulls. Sure, we would all rather be undefeated for the season and the #1 seed going into the playoffs, but this is reality. Those that say they would have rather won yesterday than have the best matchup in the playoffs (if you agree that the Celts are the best matchup for the Pacers) are foolish. In a week nobody is going to remember or care about what went down in Miami yesterday and in the playoffs momentum is all what happened in the last game. We could go into the playoffs with a 20 game win streak but if we lose Game 1, the other team has the momentum.

arkman40
04-18-2005, 10:28 AM
On paper the Bulls look better, but be careful not to underestmate the value of playoff experience. Pierce, Walker, Payton have been though plenty of wars...all of the Chicago's best players have never even been to the postseason. With the huge amount of collective playoff experience the Pacers have, I half expect that a series with the Bulls would go our way relatively decisively.

cramerica
04-18-2005, 11:05 AM
This way, if the Pacers get past the Celts, they'll play Detroit in the second round... that is if they can get past Philly (who I'm sure no one wants to play).
Philly's going to be a tough match-up for Detroit. I still see Detroit winning, but it's not going to be a sweep or in 5.

Kegboy
04-18-2005, 11:49 AM
I'd rather play Chicago. They're banged up and have NO playoff experience, unless you count Tony. :rolleyes: I think we'd have a deer-in-headlights situation there.

Playing Boston just gives me nightmares of The Great Collapse. I just need to keep telling myself that Eric Williams and Walter McCarty don't play for them anymore.

Bball
04-18-2005, 11:57 AM
I think we have a 'be careful what you wish for' scenario brewing and that is why I'd rather go in on a high note than to back in and be happy about who it matches us up against.

Boston does have playoff experience. They could get HCA (in fact it looks like they will). While the Bulls might be tougher on paper they are also young and inexperienced in the playoffs. That would give these Pacers an advantage in a key area. Also, while Chicago might be good they aren't THAT good...
And Chicago has some injury issues.

As Kegboy says... we've played Boston before in a 'down' year and in fact wanted them in the playoffs for the same kind of reasons as now. What did that get us? It did show the only thing worse than Isiah Thomas as an NBA coach was Isiah Thomas as an NBA playoff coach....

I don't care who we play... I just want to meet them on a high note and let the chips fall where they may. I'd still prefer meeting the Pistons for that matter.

-Bball

Reggie4Three
04-18-2005, 12:18 PM
I totally disregard the Celtics series from IT's era. Our problems that season were completely self-imposed. The Celtics danced around the court and celebrated beating us, probably the worst team in the playoffs at that point (no I don't mean the worst record, but I think when the playoffs started we might've been the worst team that got in). After beating us, they promptly were swept out in the next round if I'm not mistaken.

Also, I just don't think the fact that it's the postseason is going to hurt the Bulls that much in the first round. If they advance further and the pressure mounts, it might. I just don't think there's any real pressure on them given that they've exceeded expectations this year and the late injuries. Also, their style, as I think it was Hick's was the first to point out, isn't going to change much from regular season to postseason. The Celtics, on the other hand, have no inside presence and a style that usually isn't as successful in playoff ball as it is in the regular season.

Harmonica
04-18-2005, 01:19 PM
How much time do we have between the last game of the season and the start of the playoffs? A 3-4 day break would be nice.

A-Train
04-18-2005, 01:26 PM
Playoffs start Saturday.

Kstat
04-18-2005, 01:26 PM
Philly's going to be a tough match-up for Detroit. I still see Detroit winning, but it's not going to be a sweep or in 5.

Actually, now that Cleveland is no longer in the picture, Philly is my most desirable opponent. I'd LOVE to draw them in round 1.

We match up better with Philly than anybody in the playoff picture. Plus, we've beaten Iverson before. He's familiar to us.

Igoudala can only guard one of Rip, Billups and Prince. The other two will have a field day with Korver and Iverson in the post. That's how it was 2 years ago, and I'm not sure Philly is a tougher team than they were in 2003.

I'll admit NJ would be problematic. I'd like to avoid them, if possible.

Mushmouth
04-18-2005, 01:30 PM
speaking of the Nets- if Jefferson plays (as this article claims http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2039510 ) , they become a pretty difficult 8 seed.

Could they beat the Heat w/ a banged-up shaq?

Kstat
04-18-2005, 01:34 PM
speaking of the Nets- if Jefferson plays (as this article claims http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2039510 ) , they become a pretty difficult 8 seed.

Could they beat the Heat w/ a banged-up shaq?
again, you're talking Jason collins and Nenad Krstic vs Shaq. NJ's frontline is pitiful.

Of course, they cause a LOT of problems for Eddie and Damon Jones on defense.....

canyoufeelit
04-18-2005, 01:36 PM
Quite interesting how much stronger the bottom seeds are than they were last year. I've said it before, gonna say it again: Philly and NJ at best could push their series to 6. Anything more, that's a tall freaking order.

Suaveness
04-18-2005, 01:38 PM
You people are really underestimating Boston...

Mourning
04-18-2005, 01:48 PM
You people are really underestimating Boston...

Ibidem!

Regards,

Mourning :cool:

Mushmouth
04-18-2005, 01:50 PM
Quite interesting how much stronger the bottom seeds are than they were last year. I've said it before, gonna say it again: Philly and NJ at best could push their series to 6. Anything more, that's a tall freaking order.

yeah, that's about where I see it too - 6 games tops for either. Gotta think Shaq has just been waiting for the playoffs all year anyway. He'll probably start hitting for 30 and 20 again nightly...

Reggie4Three
04-18-2005, 02:24 PM
I think some people are really giving the Celtics too much credit . . . .

Kegboy
04-18-2005, 02:31 PM
again, you're talking Jason collins and Nenad Krstic vs Shaq. NJ's frontline is pitiful.

Of course, they cause a LOT of problems for Eddie and Damon Jones on defense.....

And don't forget, Zo is gonna want to beat the Nets bad. The way NJ is playing, plus possibly getting Jefferson back, they could give anybody in the east problems, except for Miami.

Kstat
04-18-2005, 02:33 PM
And don't forget, Zo is gonna want to beat the Nets bad. The way NJ is playing, plus possibly getting Jefferson back, they could give anybody in the east problems, except for Miami.

Zo can only play when Shaq isn't on the floor. WHich means he's going to see about 5 minutes of action in the playoffs anyway.

Fool
04-18-2005, 03:10 PM
I'm not sure Philly is a tougher team than they were in 2003.


Of course in 2003 they took us (the Pistons) to 6 games one of which the Pistons won in OT and were only in over-time to begin with thanks to a closing seconds hook by Prince and another game which came down to Chucky Atkins making a game winning (last second) lay-up by squeezing down the baseline. (That year was my favorite playoff run by the way, it was incredibly dramatic in so many game in every series.)

Now, I assume you would agree that the Pistons are better than in 02-03 but while we are clearly the favorite in the series, I would much rather play Washington, who we own and who Chauncey lights up (almost as a rule). I never like facing Iverson in the playoffs.