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Anthem
04-07-2005, 08:48 PM
Let's talk about players returning for the playoffs.

We're hearing that Jermaine could be back for the first game. What's likely to happen? Will Carlisle ease him into the rotation, possibly bringing him off the bench? Will we stay with our current (highly effective and fun to watch) offense or go back to "Jermaine goes 1-on-3 while everyone else watches" offense?

Next up, Tinsley. Is there any chance that he could be back if we made a deep playoff run? Would it be worth it to "waste" a spot on the playoff roster if we don't know if he's capable of coming back?

What do you think? Will we like the response?

Lord Helmet
04-07-2005, 08:59 PM
What do you think? Will we like the response?
I think those are very good questions. I would really like answered. I like how you worded the boring offense. "Sit back and watch JO offense" Maybe they will finally get it and still do the offense we have currently when JO gets back.

And, from what I have heard is it is not looking good for a Tinsley return AT ALL. He probably will miss the rest of the season along with the rest of the playoffs.

But, weirder things have happened...:devil:

And to the second question, I think we will like the response on the JO offense; but, we probably won't for the Tinsley question.

rel
04-07-2005, 09:05 PM
if tinsley does come back...i would like him coming off the bench the rest of the way out

AJ has just been playing too well

Ragnar
04-07-2005, 09:14 PM
Clearly Tinsley has been gone too long if anyone actually think AJ should start over him. Yes AJ is playing better than he ever has, but he is no Jamaal Tinsley. It is foolishness to think he should start over JT.

Anthem
04-07-2005, 09:38 PM
I think it's foolishness to say that Tinsley has ever played as consistently as AJ has for a while now at any point of significance in his career.

You're both wrong.

Before Tinsley went down with an injury, he was playing much better than AJ and just as consistently. Look at his game-by-game stats before his injury in January.

However, I wouldn't start him if he came back this year. He's better off working back in slowly. No doubt he'll win the job back next year, but there's also no doubt that he won't be 100% if he comes back this year.

Anthem
04-07-2005, 09:40 PM
Ah, that settles it then. No point in discussing it. We can shet 'er done for a few days, Hicks.

Glad you're finally listening to reason.

Peck
04-07-2005, 10:02 PM
I'm not sure he will address it because it didn't start with "Mark, love your collum, we are lucky to have someone like you to keep us updated on all things Pacers".

beast23
04-07-2005, 10:09 PM
I'll bite.

Evenly if Tinsley suddenly became healthy tomorrow, along with the rust that he has accumulated, his conditioning has to be extremly poor.

I'm also in the camp that Tinsley has not show the consistency that AJ is currently showing. I suppose that point is arguable; it depends on what you are looking for in a PG.

But the one point that I don't believe is arguable is that AJ has shown better smarts on pursuing his own offense. He takes decent shots, and doesn't force anything. When he penetrates, it very seldomly ends in an error... in other words, he knows what his options are before he penetrates.

Those are a couple of areas where I have developed a better appreciation for AJ than for Tinsley.

Unclebuck
04-07-2005, 11:27 PM
Rick Carlisle addressed this topic on his show tonight, so I don't know why you are asking MM

SoupIsGood
04-07-2005, 11:31 PM
I wish Tinsley hadn't gotten injured. Outside of David Harrison, he was the Pacer that was the most fun to watch. His ability to penetrate whenever he wanted, his amazing handle, his passing ability, and his cocky attitude were great. I loved it.

Just wish the man were durable.

Ragnar
04-07-2005, 11:35 PM
I would agree to the thought that he would be rusty and I could see taking a game or two to work him back in. But he sat most of the begining of last year because Rick refused to play him. Brown put him in the NJ game and he damn near won it for us single handedly.

skyfire
04-07-2005, 11:56 PM
Rick Carlisle addressed this topic on his show tonight, so I don't know why you are asking MM

What did RC say about how he intended to integrate JO back into the lineup UB?

omghaxwtfbbq, hurray for acronyms. :P

clownskull
04-08-2005, 12:36 AM
I would agree to the thought that he would be rusty and I could see taking a game or two to work him back in. But he sat most of the begining of last year because Rick refused to play him. Brown put him in the NJ game and he damn near won it for us single handedly.
i think you are fogetting some things.
tinsley wasn't in bad physical shape when he wasn't starting (last year) . he was still in pretty decent shape and didn't need long to get back into game shape. this time is different, he has been unable to do much of anything lately and would need a great deal longer than a game or 2 to be back to resume his starting role. i wouldn't be surprised if he did start again next year however even if he did by some chance return this year, i think his chances of regaining his strating job this year are not very good.

Anthem
04-08-2005, 02:25 AM
I'm also in the camp that Tinsley has not show the consistency that AJ is currently showing.

There is no camp. There's btown, who just says stupid crap because he knows it pisses me off. When this unbridled foolishness just comes from him, we can laugh it off, but now that you're actually agreeing with it I have to go to the trouble of debunking it.

Far be it from me to take anything away from AJ. He's just had the best 30 days of basketball in his entire career. I'm fine with him finishing out the season. But let's look at that statement again. THE BEST 30 DAYS OF HIS CAREER. Again, good for him. But it's ridiculous to look at somebody who just had a good month and say they're more consistent than somebody else because the somebody else is injured. Let's at least apply some standards that are reasonably consistent.

When AJ does this for an entire season, then you can say he's more consistent than Tinsley. Just look at your statement: "I'm also in the camp that Tinsley has not show the consistency that AJ is currently showing." Do you see the irony there? Even AJ has never shown the consistency that he's currently showing. He's never played a season like this. Look at Tinsley's play before the injury... it was excellent. He kept us alive during that stretch.

This forum has a bad case of the "What have you done for me lately"s.

Anthem
04-08-2005, 02:25 AM
i think his chances of regaining his strating job this year are not very good.

We don't even know if he'll be BACK this year.

Anthem
04-08-2005, 02:26 AM
Rick Carlisle addressed this topic on his show tonight, so I don't know why you are asking MM

The topic was posted before Rick's show. :shakehead

Peck
04-08-2005, 02:33 AM
I'm a Jamaal fan. I'm also an A.J. fan.

A.J. is playing great right now but eventually Jamaal will get his spot back, it might be next year but he will get it back.

However having said all of that I want to say this. I'm getting really sick & tired of certain players always being injured.

Has anybody noticed that it's always the same group that is always getting banged up?

ABADays
04-08-2005, 09:24 AM
However having said all of that I want to say this. I'm getting really sick & tired of certain players always being injured.

Has anybody noticed that it's always the same group that is always getting banged up?

Ummmm - yeah!

Ragnar
04-08-2005, 09:34 AM
I'm a Jamaal fan. I'm also an A.J. fan.

A.J. is playing great right now but eventually Jamaal will get his spot back, it might be next year but he will get it back.

However having said all of that I want to say this. I'm getting really sick & tired of certain players always being injured.

Has anybody noticed that it's always the same group that is always getting banged up?

I think the medical staff needs to take some of the heat for how long these players are out. They miss diagnosed Tinsley's injury and Jermaine. How do we know they have not done the same thing with Bender all these years? Both Jamaal and Jermaine got correct diagnoses only when they went to specialists not provided by the team.

MagicRat
04-08-2005, 09:53 AM
However having said all of that I want to say this. I'm getting really sick & tired of certain players always being injured.

Has anybody noticed that it's always the same group that is always getting banged up?

Luckily for Brad he was traded before you could lump him into that group. Instead he can live in your memory like James Dean: forever young.......

Harmonica
04-08-2005, 11:38 AM
Luckily for Brad he was traded before you could lump him into that group. Instead he can live in your memory like James Dean: forever young.......

This deserves a ROFLMAO smilie.

Anthem
04-08-2005, 11:58 AM
Right, everything I say is directed at you. I didn't mean a word of it.

I know. :flirt:

Mourning
04-08-2005, 12:52 PM
But I also have a feeling you and I would disagree no matter what. Your avatar seems to lead me to that conclusion.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Regards,

Mourning :cool: