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BostonConnection
02-27-2004, 07:45 PM
:sad::whip: SWAT THE BUGS!!! :sad::whip:
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http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/IND.gif-VS-http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/NO.gif

Game Time Start: 8:00 pm EST

Last played: Feb. 17, 2004; Hornets 89, Pacers 75 (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/gamecenter/boxscore/NBA_20040217_NO@IND)

Season Records:
INDIANA 42-15
NEW ORLEANS 31-26

Injuries:
INDIANA - G Jamison Brewer (toe); C Primoz Brezec (hamstring); F Ron Artest (thumb)
NEW ORLEANS - G David Wesley (toe); G Courtney Alexander (Achilles')

Tonight's Projected Starting Matchups:
**Pacers**********Hornets
*********CENTER
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jeff_foster.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jamaal_magloire.jpg
**Foster (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jeff_foster/index.html?nav=page)********Magloire (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamaal_magloire/index.html?nav=page)
******POWER FORWARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jermaine_oneal.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/pj_brown.jpg
**O'Neal (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jermaine_oneal/index.html?nav=page)********Brown (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pj_brown/index.html?nav=page)
******SMALL FORWARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/al_harrington.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jamal_mashburn.jpg
Harrington (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/al_harrington/index.html?nav=page)******Mashburn (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamal_mashburn/index.html?nav=page)
******SHOOTING GUARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/reggie_miller.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/stacey_augmon.jpg
**Miller (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/reggie_miller/index.html?nav=page)*******Augmon (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/stacey_augmon/index.html?nav=page)
******POINT GUARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/baron_davis.jpg
**Tinsley (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley/index.html?nav=page)********Davis (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/baron_davis/index.html?nav=page)

Alabama-Redneck
02-27-2004, 08:18 PM
I voted for the Pistons. With their current personnel and Brown for a coach, I think they will be our toughest challenge. I fear Brown more than the players.

:cool:

zxc
02-27-2004, 08:38 PM
Gonna be a tough one for us to win on the road. The point guard matchup just so lopsided hurts us so much. And without Artest Mashburn gonna kill us again. But the Hornets have struggled a bit past few games so hopefully they are a bit off still tonight. Gotta do better on the boards, need JO to go inside more draw some fouls on their guys not so many jumpshots, and need Reggie and Al to turn it up on offense they aren't doing enough to make up for no Ron.

able
02-27-2004, 09:20 PM
Looking good thus far, more concetation on defense, rebounding could be better, offensive sound, JO still hot on the jumper, Jamaal doing nice.


:stupid:

indytoad
02-27-2004, 09:23 PM
Every time I watch the Hornets I always start to wish we had PJ Brown.

IndyToad
Kills ya

able
02-27-2004, 09:23 PM
hmm according to the gamecast Foster is in, but that is all i saw of him, that and a foul


:stupid:

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:23 PM
Foster with the early second foul. Pollard coming in early. AJ in for Tinsley too.

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:25 PM
Wish Pollard could finish around the basket once in awhile. Nice pass by AJ to him but he blows it. Offensive rebounds hurting us again too =\

able
02-27-2004, 09:27 PM
Yeah was just wodnering why we do not rebound when playing NO, not to mention the fouls, we make (get) to many, maybe JB can bring something like that back to them, some drives like Tuesday :D

:stupid:

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:28 PM
9-0 run for NO. JO just had Baron Davis on him yet he kicked the ball out.. :confused:

indytoad
02-27-2004, 09:29 PM
We REALLY REALLY REALLY need a big center. Hornets are getting offensive rebounds on every missed shot. And since our centers suck ***, they either get fouled or get an easy layup.

We're going to lose again.

IndyToad
End game

able
02-27-2004, 09:31 PM
We REALLY REALLY REALLY need a big center. Hornets are getting offensive rebounds on every missed shot. And since our centers suck ***, they either get fouled or get an easy layup.

We're going to lose again.

IndyToad
End game

Yeah of course, why not become NO fan, oh I forget, wouldgive you something to cheer, that's not the good life is it ?

:D


:stupid:

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:31 PM
9 ft attempts to 0 in the first quarter so far

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:34 PM
Scored like 2 points in the second half of this quarter.. =\

14-2 run in the final 5 minutes for NO, they lead 22-17 after one.

Roaming Gnome
02-27-2004, 09:37 PM
We are in so much foul trouble right now...that is scary!

able
02-27-2004, 09:38 PM
Bench looks a bit flat tonight, butstill early in the game :)

They must be more rusty after all those days no comepetition :D

I would like to see Tins, Jones, Bender., O'Neal and Pollard on the floor for a change, not that it will happen :D

:stupid:

Ragnar
02-27-2004, 09:38 PM
I decided to throw in my AJ sucks post a little early tonight inhopes he will play better in the second quarter.

So AJ SUCKS get him out of the freaking game. He is -9 so far in this game.

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:40 PM
Starting to not like these rotations anymore. 5 bench players in at the same time.. ugh.

indytoad
02-27-2004, 09:43 PM
I really hope New Orleans either falls to sixth or gets beat by Milwaukee in the first round. They match up with us better than any team in the East and I don't think we could beat them in a series. Hell I don't think we'd even take them to seven.

IndyToad
Yes it does

able
02-27-2004, 09:44 PM
Bench sux tonight.

Ragnar, glad you are the first one tonight.

shootin is pathetic from the bench

hrmph.

:stupid:

Roaming Gnome
02-27-2004, 09:44 PM
Wow...I take it N.O. didn't play this big up front when we played the first 2 times because we are getting manhandled tonight.

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:45 PM
Shooting from the starters not that hot either.

able
02-27-2004, 09:45 PM
I really hope New Orleans either falls to sixth or gets beat by Milwaukee in the first round. They match up with us better than any team in the East and I don't think we could beat them in a series. Hell I don't think we'd even take them to seven.

IndyToad
Yes it does

yeah we already played 15 minutes tonight, and our bench is empty, no chance would we have, none

:stupid:

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:51 PM
Ya know I don't hate AJ as much as some here. But there is no denying Tinsley is a better player than him(not that that is saying much). AJ just plays way too many minutes for a backup. I don't understand why they split minutes like 50/50.. pretty annoying.

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:55 PM
Nice block JB. Too many offensive boards for them still though =\.

indytoad
02-27-2004, 09:55 PM
yeah we already played 15 minutes tonight, and our bench is empty, no chance would we have, none

:stupid:

I dunno, as I recall we didn't do too hot the last time we played them at full strength, at home.

IndyToad
How good he is

zxc
02-27-2004, 09:58 PM
Reggie way off tonight.

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:02 PM
Detroit up 63-33 vs hawks and still aways till halftime..

Roaming Gnome
02-27-2004, 10:02 PM
Size Does Matter!!!

able
02-27-2004, 10:03 PM
I agree with zxc that these "set rotations" are not as good as they sound.

Why take Tins out after 8 minutes when he is going as he was, scoring, passing, doing the job, we were up nicely.

Now they are looking at each other again and not or to little functioning as one.

JO seems isolated when AJ is in, Bender got going and is replaced by Foster who has been invisible all game.

:stupid:

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:04 PM
Blown out by NO twice in about a weeks time. Sucks going into the playoffs not gonna be confident vs any team.

indytoad
02-27-2004, 10:07 PM
BD just posterized O'Neal and Jamaal loses it.

Whatever we had at the beginning of the season we don't have anymore. Deja vu anyone?

IndyToad
Two went down

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:08 PM
Well that is a fun way to end the quarter. JO gets dunked on by BD, Tinsley loses the ball on other end and quarter ends. Down 12 at halftime. :(

If only that Cro shot counted =\

Roaming Gnome
02-27-2004, 10:09 PM
No good...late!

Ragnar
02-27-2004, 10:16 PM
What is it with Croshere and these right after the buzzer shots.

He makes them but it would be nice if he could get if off a 10th of a second sooner.

Unclebuck
02-27-2004, 10:18 PM
Whenever the Pacers lose a game, and I am not saying the pacers will lose tonight, but rebounding and free throw shooting always is a huge problem when they lose

Unclebuck
02-27-2004, 10:19 PM
Whatever we had at the beginning of the season we don't have anymore. Deja vu anyone?




WTF are you talking about. This is not 2003

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:27 PM
Tech on Carlisle now. When was the last game he didn't have a tech?

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:34 PM
Well lead down to single digits again. Timeout NO. Gotta keep it going here and get back in this now. Though teams always seem to kill us out of timeouts =\

Mourning
02-27-2004, 10:35 PM
GO Indy!!!

Natston
02-27-2004, 10:36 PM
Maybe I should be happy that I can't see the game tonight... :unimpressed:

MagicRat
02-27-2004, 10:38 PM
FYI.....

http://home.comcast.net/~magic_rat/Last-Shot.jpg

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:39 PM
Nice move Al could cut it down to 5. Though it is almost time for Carlisle to send in the 5 bench players at once.. =\

indytoad
02-27-2004, 10:39 PM
Well PJ Brown has four now, although they still have more than enough beef up front without him.

IndyToad
Just one is fine

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:40 PM
Damn. I hate ally oops like that. Had a chance to cut it to 3 but instead a bad pass and it is back to 7.

indytoad
02-27-2004, 10:41 PM
Jamaal, this is NOT the time to be trying high-flying flashy plays. Blech.

IndyToad
Almost even

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:42 PM
What is Al thinking there so deep under the basket can't score. Now Jeff gets his fifth foul and lead is about to head back to 9. Things turn fast after stupid plays like that pass by Tinsley =\

Mourning
02-27-2004, 10:43 PM
NO is a pretty big team, why are we not sending in Pollard???

Regards,

Mourning :cool:

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:43 PM
From 5 to 12 in a few possesions. So much for the comeback.

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:47 PM
Make that 15. Another timeout for Carlisle. This is deflating :(

Aw Heck
02-27-2004, 10:48 PM
Anybody still think we shouldn't trade Al for a big man in the offseason??

birdman
02-27-2004, 10:50 PM
What a block by Bender!

able
02-27-2004, 10:53 PM
take out AJ, bring in Tins and we have a team out there.

:stupid:

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:53 PM
We need more than just a big man. Our guards suck too. Know you all think I am just too negative but is anyone here confident in the playoffs against any team? We have really overachieved so far.

debohstheman
02-27-2004, 10:56 PM
why the hell are we not seeing Pollard..
NO's guards have more rebounds than our entire team almost..

what the **** is carlisle thinking


man....we MISS RON....
seriously
mash wouldnt be scoring like this......
al just doesnt look good at all

able
02-27-2004, 10:57 PM
JO has not played inside, which is coach's orders, Al is not rebounding, not was Foster, Cro not been in long enough, Bender got pulled when he warmed up, afaics it's a rotation problem.

If Al isn't bringing it like tonight, pull him, let Bender and Cro play extended and same goes for AJ, though we can always let KA have some backup minuts, Tins should be in longer.

:stupid:

zxc
02-27-2004, 10:57 PM
why the hell are we not seeing Pollard..
NO's guards have more rebounds than our entire team almost..


Because Pollard sucks?

debohstheman
02-27-2004, 10:58 PM
yeah but tonight he has more rebounds than anyone else....
we need a biggre body in there

able
02-27-2004, 10:59 PM
yeah but tonight he has more rebounds than anyone else....
we need a biggre body in there
JO = 8
Tins = 4
Pollie = 7
Reg = 3

Foster = 2

zxc
02-27-2004, 11:00 PM
Kenny Anderson checking in. Big chance to get back into the rotation. Hope he takes hold of it. Our other PGs not getting it done often enough.

debohstheman
02-27-2004, 11:00 PM
i meant for his playing time.......im just saying i would rather see him in there..foster is NOT effective at all against this team

able
02-27-2004, 11:02 PM
What is wrong with Tins, why is KA coming in?

Tins is topscorer on the team!


Iwonder whether RC is under the whether!

:stupid:

Natston
02-27-2004, 11:03 PM
score?

birdman
02-27-2004, 11:03 PM
finally Kenny is in! We had a bad lineup out there, JO and Reggie need to get in. We need some points quick.

debohstheman
02-27-2004, 11:03 PM
i agree...i think KA is more the type of PG this team needs rather than AJ

zxc
02-27-2004, 11:04 PM
What is wrong with Tins, why is KA coming in?

Tins is topscorer on the team!


Iwonder whether RC is under the whether!


Tinsley wasn't getting us back in the game either. This game is all but over, just trying something new now in hopes of it helping in future games.

able
02-27-2004, 11:08 PM
What is wrong with Tins, why is KA coming in?

Tins is topscorer on the team!


Iwonder whether RC is under the whether!


Tinsley wasn't getting us back in the game either. This game is all but over, just trying something new now in hopes of it helping in future games.

Tins : 22 min. 5-8 FG 2-3 3Pt. 2-2 FT 4Rb 3 Ast 2 St 2 To 14 Pts.

wanna reconsider ?

zxc
02-27-2004, 11:11 PM
Tins : 22 min. 5-8 FG 2-3 3Pt. 2-2 FT 4Rb 3 Ast 2 St 2 To 14 Pts.

wanna reconsider ?

Who cares what his line is? He was in the game while they built the 15 point lead and he wasn't helping things. It was him throwing an ill advised pass when we had a chance to cut it to 3 that really started things slipping away.

Mourning
02-27-2004, 11:11 PM
seems like a decent line, yes. I dunno, but maybe the stats dont tell the story on this one though. Seems a little unlikely though I must admit.

Regards,

Mourning :cool:

zxc
02-27-2004, 11:17 PM
That lame offensive foul call should about do it for the game tonight. Sucks =\

Hope we have a good game tommorow and not a let down. Need something positive before the 4 game road trip. Little slide here and we can easily fall right back to the pack.

able
02-27-2004, 11:18 PM
go check Al's line and wonder why he is in, I know I do.

zxc
02-27-2004, 11:19 PM
JO shooting a three? Okay..

able
02-27-2004, 11:21 PM
something makes us stink badly against these guys.

BADLY

Hicks
02-27-2004, 11:22 PM
Checking in from watching away from the computer. We have no heart without Ron. We don't attack at all and give about 3/4ths the effort at BEST. I turned the game off at the 3 minute mark, i'm in too bad a mood already to put up with anymore of this crap.

I miss Ron.

zxc
02-27-2004, 11:22 PM
something makes us stink badly against these guys.

BADLY

Outclassed very badly at the PG and C spots perhaps.

James Jones in the game... it's officially over.

BostonConnection
02-27-2004, 11:30 PM
Final Score :mad:

:hornets: 89
:pacers: 77


http://scores.nba.com/games/20040227/INDNOH/boxscoreprint.html

BostonConnection
02-27-2004, 11:34 PM
Magloire and Foster chase down a loose ball...
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040228/capt.nuh10202280221.pacers_hornets_nuh102.jpg
(courtesy of Yahoo.com)

tora tora
02-27-2004, 11:36 PM
Reggie with a whopping 4 point explosion...
Pacers should have made a trade to get a legitimate 15-20 ppg shooting guard.

BostonConnection
02-27-2004, 11:37 PM
Reg drives past Davis...
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040228/capt.nuh10102280214.pacers_hornets_nuh101.jpg
(courtesy of Yahoo.com)